This was before the Jimmy Swaggart fiasco, am I right? I think stuff like that turns the people off religious types.
I don't know. I have often wondered what she meant by that, because it doesn't really add up.
I think she thought she would look bad in the eyes of the viewer (or Maddie would). Cybill had a bad reputation over the years, before Moonlighting, and I think she thought this show would bring her new fans and the public and press would love her. I think even Glenn told her she would be able to do comedy and be a fun character, not just some woman that uses and abuses men and acts like a bitch. So maybe she started to notice her character becoming colder and more difficult, and not believing in God was something she thought the public would hate.
Good fun, though, and food for sites like these.
But she wasn't glued to that belief - David got her thinking -
I am so tired of everything and everyone having labels! Maddie was a strong woman! I do not consider her a feminist. The word makes me cringe. Feminist makes me think of man hating, pussy hat wearing women who do not shave their legs and are NOT my gender.
Sorry but I disagree. The 80s was not the decade of offended people and safe spaces. Even though the moral majority was pushing its agenda - most people didn't follow their strict religious views. People in that time did not scream in protest if someone had a different view then they did. The show itself would never survive in today's world of outraged unhinged people.
That is very true. It's frightening how much everything has changed since then. I didn't particularly like the 80s overall at the time, but they now seem like a really cosy era from this distance. It was still, along with the 70s, the golden age of TV.
That's what Cybill called Maddie in her book. I guess she said she was a feminist because she was usually on the side of the woman in the show whenever there was a debate about who was right or wrong. But that was what the show was about, a woman's point of view vs. a man's point of view. I think there are more moderate feminists (who just want equal rights for women) than what you are describing. That's more of a radical feminist.
The only time I didn't like Maddie is when she ran away and then came back married to Walter. She was so mean.
I agree! I hated when she told David to congratulate her on the marriage. Those episodes must have been so hard for Cybill to do. She was not happy about that at all!
and its not yours ---- so mean and cold
Pretty sure that was all just Glenn trying to get back at Cybill. Or he was trying to get her to leave the show. But that backfired on him.
I would, humbly, point to how minorities, and gay people in particular, were treated in the '80s – when the President of the United States didn't even utter the word "AIDS" until the sixth year of his eight-year presidency – as pushback against your notion that people "did not scream in protest if someone had a different view than they did" during the decade. Gay people and black people (and not a few women) screamed, a lot, about the direction of the country, how AIDS was dismissed in many places as something that happened to people who "deserved it," and how poor people were catching hell. And Ronald Reagan nonetheless won 93 out of a possible 100 states in two general elections. It was not a hunky-dory decade for marginalized communities, or for people for whom faith was not a central tenet of their lives. I don't think Cybill would have protested so strongly against the writing of her character coming out as atheist (or, if you like, agnostic) if it wasn't a big deal at the time. She knew it would have an impact, that a lot of people who watched would be quite unsympathetic to Maddie Hayes' atheism/agnosticism.
I think people in America would probably have been more offended by the atheist/agnostic issue. From what I hear and read, Americans are more religious than we are in England, where nobody batted an eyelid. About ten years before, we had a sitcom called The Liver Birds, about two young women sharing a flat in Liverpool, one of whom, Carol, was a staunch catholic and always said her prayers at bedtime ("God bless me mam, God bless me dad, wherever he is..."), and Sandra, the posh girl, was portrayed as an agnostic - nobody cared in the 70s, never mind the 80s. I think it's probably a bigger issue in the States. Or was.
More than anything, it didn't make any sense. The whole thing was like a bad dream and so far out of character for Maddie. And I don't want to come over as being shallow or anything, but Maddie and Walter Bishop?! When the actor auditioned for David Addison, he was deemed to be well out of Maddie's league, so why wasn't he now? It really does seem like a let's-get-Cybill campaign at that point.
Great point!
AND the fact that she was so upset with MacCuilicuddy when he did it!!!!! And then she goes and does the same????? Made no sense at all. I can understand her trepidation returning home to David but come on!
